"Can I just add that personally I find this intervention extremely welcome if it helps close down this vile thread"

I have to say that's pretty rich coming, as it does, from one of those mostly responsible for keeping it going. If The Gang Of Three - Keith, Lox and Jim - had stopped repeating their personal dogmas over and over and over again, and accepted that we don't all think the same, it wouldn't have needed "closing down" - it would have died a natural death two months ago.

And some of the abusive language ('Racist', 'Bigot', 'Liar',), ageist abuse of elderly members, and vile, disgusting comments which are offensive to sufferers of life-threatening bowel disease, might have been avoided.

It's not just abuse of Muslims that's wrong. Abuse in any form is equally wrong, and as much of the abuse on this thread has come from the Holier-Than-Thou-Moral-High-Ground-Takers as from those being accused of Racism, Bigotry and Lies.

Sorry Jim, I don't side with anyone in this sorry excuse for a thread and I wouldn't deign to express an opinion on the subject-matter, but whilst I have respect for your you and your opinions, I find your comment above rather akin to someone who lives in a glasshouse throwing bricks about.

But I agree, it is a vile thread. Lets hope this is the final post (though I somehow doubt it will be).