I happen to lean toward Lizzie on this one. Either she is just making it up, OR she has been there, (unless she is speaking of theoretics, which I somewhat doubt).

The difference between the way some of you, are posting, is like blind people, consoling each other that there is nothing to see, and trying to convince people who CAN see, that there is really nothing at all, just because they can't see it!

As far as Shimrod's post, I'd LOVE to turn you onto ANYTHING that would brighten your day, but on here, I'm not into defending simple truths, that we have within us, just for the sake of responding to all the interference of the aforementioned blind....BUT..I can give you a couple of things, that point the way. I had posted a good start on a previous thread, in which some of the willingly stubborn blind, commenced with their 'semi-literate diatribes' (READ: Half witted frothing rants)!

What I can say, for now, is there is a LOT more of what you are aware, or capable of being aware of, built right into your 'carbon unit'(body). We condition ourselves by, being convinced that the material is all that there is, and that somehow, we are not connected to the rest, as a whole...thereby cutting us off, and separating us, not by reality, but by our 'mind's thinking', that somehow there is no more...so to that person, he doesn't see it, or acknowledge it...and lives day to day as a 'thing' rather than a 'being'. Both political CONTROLLERS need you to think this way to control your thoughts and be a 'subject', while profiteers need you to be nothing more than a 'consumer'.....so, if you turn to those sources, you get NOTHING!!!!!...in fact, you get a lot of the same shit you read on here, by those who bought into their methods, of CONTROL! If you turn to 'religion', at least most organized religion, you run into more 'control freaks'.

I think the first thing in order, is to admit honestly to ourselves, that we are missing something, that opens a conduit, to the very force from where we got life, and wonder, what or how life would have evolved for me, if I let that force blossom within me, for all these years....instead of trying to keep up with those who don't know diddly.....I'm guessing there's some little voice in you, that KNOWS what I'm talking about...and it's probably been shut up, or thought to be 'lame'. THAT my dear fellow poster, IS the voice that needs YOU to allow it to ask the 'things' it needs, and YOU follow, instead of you telling it to 'quiet down', so you can pursue the latest 'desire' that you've been convinced either by others or by yourself.

Its much like a talent. Did the State give you a talent? Did you buy a talent from a corporation?.....or do you develop a talent that you already had? Where did it come from, and for what purpose? To promote the State?...To make more money, like the corporations most all seem to hate?...or to reach someone else's 'little voice' within, and speak to it??...and touch their hearts? You can pursue ANYTHING you want....but somethings keep going on.

Will see how this one goes.

Hi, Lizzie!!!! Glad you posted as you did. I know you can take a lot of heat for it...and if you are in your (posted)eighth sense, it's water off a duck's back!

GfS