The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #137122   Message #3135761
Posted By: Richard Bridge
15-Apr-11 - 11:08 AM
Thread Name: BS: Some people are so stupid...
Subject: RE: BS: Some people are so stupid...
Lox, it's self determining. If they're still chavs, they have not improved. In the vast preponderance of cases it's because they have not bothered. Goths and metallers on the other hand seem to have some interest in intellectual stimulation - and you should hear their views on chavs.

I don't usually have any problem with real chavi. They do (largely - well those who I have met) seem to have a different world of a different set of learning, although there are both male and female travellers who are chavs instead.

When I was doing a lot of debating at university we used to debate at least once a term with a local society - affiliated to a Working Men's Institute or something like that. There was a coterie of their leading members who had acquired a considerable breadth of reading and learning in the 20s and 30s. There was no work but they had gone into the public libraries and educated themselves and many of them were better informed on the philosophers read in that period that we university students were. You don't catch a chav doing that.