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Thread #137068   Message #3135784
Posted By: Mysha
15-Apr-11 - 11:48 AM
Thread Name: BS: CapriUni's blog: disability in folktales
Subject: RE: BS: CapriUni's blog: disability in folktales
Hi Penny,

Loki is related to both, I guess. He gives the people warmth, like Prometheus gives them fire, but he doesn't really have pro-metheus, fore-thought, and as a result the warmth also heats up our summers. (I'm not even sure the fire-giving orignally belongs to Prometheus; forethought would reveal what will happen to you if you steal fire from the gods and give it to mankind.) And their punishment is similar as well. But Prometheus seeks no ties with the Olympians at all, which Loki and Hephaistos do. The combination of the stories is not the same, whatever the human history behind that.

Neither Odin nor Thor should be the leader of the Asen, BTW. Tyr should, and he probably was at some point before the distinction between warrior and farmer cults brought Odin and Thor to the fore. (I would really like to know more about the human history of Odin, to understand how that came to be, but I have difficulty finding out where that aspect is studied. As soon as someone finds out I'm not interested in the (final) mythological history, they at best tell me that's something their U doesn't research.) Tyr/Tywaz/Diva/Dieu/Zeus are all related; a natural deity.

I don't know what people thought of Loki, but to appear in several stories while not even having any temples to keep him in mind, he'd have to be fairly accepted.

Is Pan disabled? Two steps removed he is: Evil in disguise can be recognised by being either blind in one eye (Odin), or cripple, for not having human legs (Pan). Was he himself disabled? Well, it appears he is a demi-human. Whether those themselves stem from disabilities ...?

Bye,
                                                                                                                                 Mysha