Michael, if you want to know what else I can sweet talk you into, you'd probably do well to use the "personal page" function of the Mudcat. To do that, you first have to become a membe -- oh, right, you ARE one! Well, here's a warm and sincere CROESO to our friend in Swansea. Should the fingers get really troublesome, you have two choices: good whiskey, or more typing on mudcat threads -- once they're numb they won't trouble you in the least. Morticia, I've been contemplating a career change anyway, so think of this as a part of my unpaid internship in the department of LOST SOUL RECRUITMENT.And Michael, may the long-time sun shine upon you... thanks for the good vibe! Margaret