"I knew right from wrong at 10"
All this oozes a middle class smugness of people who have no idea of the conditions on these estates and the effects they have on the behaviour of those who live on them.
I'm sure Banjiman has, as his two neighbouring estates, Croxteth and Sparrow Hall both share Kirkby's problems, and have been prone to crimes of violence, some horrific, throughout my lifetime, though I totally reject his nonsensical non-solution of treating children as adults, fully recognised as nonsense by our law-makers in forming laws that clearly differentiate between the two.
I wonder how many here would be prepared to see their child banged up as an adult if he/she say, took a car without permission and ran somebody down in the process, without howling "but he/she is only a child" – yeah, right!!
These twwo were children when they committed their crimes, were recognised and punished as such – quite rightly; and demands that it should be otherwise, especially to the extent suggested, is every bit as inhuman as what they did – and as I said, none of you have the excuse of being 10-year-old children – at least, I don't think you have!!
I can assume that you all would be happy to see the reduction of any age differentiation in criminal cases – to what, I wonder – nine, eight, seven…. lower even???
"......and not 'Chainsaw 2' or 'Halloween 4"
So you do recognise that there might be reasons other than their being 'pure evil' to make them act the way they did - careful Lizzie, you might just end up a caring human being - if you're not careful!
Jim Carroll