Survivor, that is a very brave thing to talk about and it shows a lot of self awareness. Lizzie Cornish, I am not getting personal. You brought your own personal experience into this debate as if it gives you an insight that is better than others and as if it could only lead to one (right) conclusion. If you do not want your own self certainty challenged then do not bring up personal details that are completely off the topic anyway. Unless you had a child brutally murdered you cannot know how Denise Bulger feels.