BTW - Ron,yes you are right on reflection. The initial premise was just that sucess is begrudged. It just seemed to turn into a bit of 'an English thing' at one time. I am lucky enough to be in a position to have seen both - albeit not too much on the west, sides of the pond - and yes, there is little difference. I can say quite categoricaly that sucess is not begrudged here as it is not there. Hope this helps.

Cheers

MP