"Democracy would be a fine system if we had some real choice and a few more people were able to think things through (which they plainly can't)" -- Shimrod
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See what I mean? What a conceited, patronising conclusion. Why can't Shimrod "think through" the obvious fact that what he wants is not what most people want. How dare he go on from there to conclude that this is because they can't "think things through" as clearly as His Monumental Intellectship can?
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"Arthur would you have accepted it if a referendum voted for capital punishment (which it would following the rantings of the Sun, Mail etc)?" Doc John
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Another example of the 'progressive' at work. WHY precisely should he consider himself entitled to denounce expressions of views contrary to his own as "rantings", in tones which suggest we should all regard this description as self-evident?
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Oh, what's the use?

~M~