Ebbie: my remarks were not intended to be "snarky". I merely was agreeing with what Fortunato said.

John P: Our political philosophies are so far apart, there is little reason to continue our conversation. Nothing will be gained either way.

If you are of the opinion that Democrats do not lie, start with the many lies our current president has uttered since he took office. Yes, I know, you will reply (if at all), "Name them." They are too numerous to mention.

Saul, are you still with us?

DougR