If you don't think so,Richard, just look at Ringer's post immediately following yours; & then, as I said before, go back to the Bulger thread [to which you posted some quite sensible points, I observe] & count the posts from such as Richie, Silas, Smokey [leaving out josepp who is a fool] who contradict your assertion that no civilised person could disagree with you ~~ and withdraw that assertion unless you mean to appear as gratuitously offensive as well as ?-begging.

~M~