Not in my case, DMcG ~~ I didn't attempt in any way to define the concept, but simply declined to accept the narrow, mnemonic, doctrinaire conceptualisation of it asserted by my interlocutor*.

As my 1st-cousin-once-removed Louis B Mayer's partner once requested in one of his celebrated Goldwynisms: "Include me out!"

~M~

*I do however refute the accusation of 'name-calling', I am unaware of having addressed him by by other name than Richard.