Peter Paul and Mary came out of this, Art, as you know. About that time Al Grossman who ran the Gate decided he would put together this folk trio, I think the story was in his words, "Two rabbis and a hooker". I was during that time that Al auditioned and presented them at the Gate and gave them the names, Paul was Noel Stookey and Peter was a modestly successful act as a single. Everybody knew Mary, the Amazon Queen of Washington Square.

I think one of the bass players worked with them at the time. I was accompanying Shoshana Damari, the legendary Yemenite singer at the time.