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Thread #137528   Message #3166702
Posted By: Teribus
07-Jun-11 - 05:00 PM
Thread Name: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
Subject: RE: BS: obit: Osama Bin Laden ???
OK I will ask you once again:

"Where and when did I state that white Phosphorus was harmless?"

please tell me what part or parts of that question that you do not understand.

White Phosphorus:

"White phosphorus is a material made from a common allotrope of the chemical element phosphorus that is used in smoke, tracer, illumination and incendiary munitions.

As an incendiary weapon, white phosphorus burns fiercely and can set cloth, fuel, ammunition and other combustibles on fire, and cause serious burns or death.

In addition to its offensive capabilities, white phosphorus is also a highly efficient smoke-producing agent, burning quickly and causing an instant bank of smoke. As a result, smoke-producing white phosphorus munitions are very common, particularly as smoke grenades for infantry,
loaded in grenade launchers on tanks and other armored vehicles, or as part of the ammunition allotment for artillery or mortars. These create smoke screens to mask movement, position or the origin of fire from the enemy. White phosphorus is used in bombs, artillery, mortars, and short-range missiles which burst into burning flakes of phosphorus upon impact

Any of you clowns read read any reference to smoke grenades in that passage? Read anything there about Chemical Weapons?? Funny thing is I didn't.

Care to explain why White Phosphorus and Napalm are dealt with specifically in a Convention relating to Conventional Weapons but are not covered by the specific convention concerned with Chemical Weapons?

Hint for both Silas and Jim - just because you want to call Agent Orange and Napalm Chemical weapons does necessarily make them so.

Loved this bit though Jim-lad:

"White phosphorus is believed to have been first used by Fenian arsonists in the 19th century

Any words by way of condemanation?? LOL you just couldn't make it up.

Your reference to CIA?? Well let's take a look at it shall we:

"In Iraq, the Saddam Hussein regime used white phosphorus, as well as chemical weapons that are scheduled in the Chemical Weapons Convention, in the Halabja poison gas attack during the Iran–Iraq War in 1988, according to the ANSA news agency.

Another news report said "US intelligence" called WP a chemical weapon in a declassified Pentagon report from February 1991:
"Iraqi forces loyal to President Saddam may have possibly used white phosphorus
Guess what is missing here?? A coma perhaps chemical weapons against Kurdish rebels and the populace in Erbil and Dohuk. The WP chemical was delivered by artillery rounds and helicopter gunships."

Care to tell me what Depleted Uranium has to do with Osama bin Laden?? Or are you just introducing another off topic red herring?

US and UK used DU ammunition in Desert Storm, care to tell us where? And against what targets? Now tell us who fired loads of DU ammunition in and around Basra in 1991? Tell us what ammunition gets spouted out of the twin barrelled Gryazev-Shipunov GSh-30-2 cannon mounted on a Mil-24 Hind Gunship as flown by the Iraqi Air Force of Saddam Hussein? In Desert Storm what iraqi armoured formations were centred in or around Basra (Hint for you - None) So what would cause the our Coalition of the willing to load up Apaches and A-10 Warthogs with DU munitions specifically designed to "kill" tanks to strike at places where there were no tanks? I actually believe that those aircraft and those munitions were targeted at Iraqi armoured formations all of whom were out in open desert far, far away from Basra.