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Posted By: The Sandman
23-Jun-11 - 11:19 AM
Thread Name: Peter Kennedy's Folktrax recordings
Subject: RE: Peter Kennedy's Folktrax recordings
Subject: RE: Peter Kennedy's Folktrax recordings
From: greg stephens - PM
Date: 21 Jun 11 - 03:51 PM

I have to admit to the dreadful crime of recording songs off radio folk programmes onto a cassette. The Good Soldier thinks this is a crime; I don't. I bet most of us have done the same. And have not the slightest objection to the practise. I am absolutely delighted that Peter Kennedy recorded a number of my own radio prorammes and catalogued them. Otherwise they would have been lost, the BBC was not specially motivated when it came to archiving their own folk recordings!
Peter Kennedy may or not have been guilty of some dubious practises. Putting his cassette recorder in front of the speaker for Folk on 2 wasn't one of them.Subject: RE: Peter Kennedy's Folktrax recordings
From: Martin Graebe - PMFrom: GUEST,Derek Schofield - PM
Date: 20 Jun 11 - 05:57 PM

Martin and Dick (GSS) disagree on the cassette business.
Looking at the Folktrax archive, this is the entry:

BALD HEADED END OF THE BROOM, THE - "O love it is a funny thing - it affects both young and old" - ROUD#2129 - MERCHANT: Gargling Songster, Chicago, c1885 titled "Lines of Love" - RANDOLPH 1946 - KENNEDY FSBI 1975 p449 Martha Gillen 1954 -- Martha GILLEN, rec by Seamus Ennis, Co Antrim, 1954: RPL 21839/ FTX-019 & FTX-434 - Dick & Sue Miles Radio Folk on Two 1984 CASS 0453 --- Beach Mt NC: FOLK LEGACY FSA-23

If you look at this on the website, FTX19 and FTX434 are hyperlinked to Folktrax cassettes that Kennedy sold. Neither of them contains Dick's recording - they contain the Martha Gillen recording. CASS 0453 is not hyper-linked, suggesting to me that it was - as Martin states - a private recording that he made from the radio and kept as such in his archive. We've all done it. This all suggests that it was not sold. Now, of course, the recording might have been put on a Folktrax commercial cassette at some stage between 1984 and a while prior to Kennedy's death. I don't know. But that's not what the website suggests.

I'm no apologist for Kennedy. I knew him, we fell out, talked to each other again and fell out again. He did some dubious things with recordings, but perhaps not on this occasion.

Derek
Finally, I will remind all 3 of you, that the law states categorically, no recording whatsoever for any purposes, without permission, that is what PPL is there for.
Date: 21 Jun 11 - 08:17 AM

Sorry, Derek - I did, of course, mean you

And, Dick, I do see a difference between bootlegging and recording a programme off-air for later listening - and if you have never done it I would be surprised at your virtue relative to the rest of people I know.

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