The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #138411   Message #3175382
Posted By: John P
23-Jun-11 - 05:11 PM
Thread Name: BS: Science under attack.
Subject: RE: BS: Science under attack.
No, the perception of grandness came from you capitalizing a word in the middle of a sentence, an issue I've don't care about and have been trying to let go of.

Eyewitness testimony in a court of law is VERY different than personal stories about the existence of God. The two aren't even on the same planet. One is a description of a physical event that happened and which doesn't require any Belief to believe and the other is a description of a non-physical, non-causative event that does require Belief. All I have to do with an eyewitness in court is to decide whether or not he's lying. With personal stories about God -- none of which, as far as I know, can stand up to very much cross-examination -- I have to decide whether or not God exists.

Please understand that I'm not one of those who thinks that science can answer all questions and that spirituality is bullshit. Science can only answer questions of how our universe is put together physically. It can't describe love, team spirit, beauty, the phenomenon of the belief in God, or a whole host of other things. And the gaps in our knowledge are much greater than what we actually know -- like what it is about humans that allows/causes us to have spiritual experiences.

Sorry, I really don't have a Belief system. At least not one with a capital B. ;^)   I am a very spiritual person who has had numerous mystical/spiritual/non-linear experiences and who thinks that if everyone did what Jesus said the world would be a much better place. Where it all falls apart for me is Believing in all the other stuff that religions claim as truth. Why not have the spiritual experience, and learn from it, and be an ethical/moral person, without taking on the virgin birth, raising from the dead, and a conscious creator who cares what individuals do?