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Thread #138411   Message #3175415
Posted By: Donuel
23-Jun-11 - 05:47 PM
Thread Name: BS: Science under attack.
Subject: RE: BS: Science under attack.
There are aspects of science that require attack or at least a well reasoned reset.

Peer review for example can sometimes do more harm than good when putting new concepts through the filter of the status quo. Reproducing results is a good thing but there are sciences that are conceptual in search of quantitative experiments but if the controversial subject is shot to hell by "status quoticians", then funding for experimentation is jeopardized.

Some mathematicians believe the universe at large is entirely quantifiable with math, as if the universe is at its core a mathematical construct. The problem is when math can not describe a phenomenon, it is falsely assumed that the premise is at fault and the the current state of math.

I have complained for decades that linear thinking is the worst possible way of visualizing anything, yet that is what is considered to be "normal thinking". For example people think of time (actually space-time) as having a linear direction that points from past through the now into the future. The problem is that nothing is linear in a universe in motion and expansion. Whlie it seems perfectly normal to me that time most likely has more than one dimension, an x and y axis would more accurately describe time along with all its relativistic qualities linked to gravity.

Time has two dimensions!? Most likely. That's why events viewed from the instant of now, may reveal recent future events and adjacent past events in a slightly fuzzy fashion. Viewing time as a linear thing, is just wrong. Time viewed as a multi dimensional wave feels intuitively correct.

Some of you may have had the privilege of viewing how time actually moves in quantum jumps. People under the influence of LSD have viewed trucks moving down a midnight highway from a great distance and saw the trucks move in instant steps and not a smooth constant motion. Some of them reported the process as a smooth trail but when asked to concentrate on that trail it broke into discrete segments of movement. Maybe you sped up your mind and became aware of the cycling of florescent lights turning on and off quickly. You may have seen a conductors baton trail in a discrete go stop go stop fashion making it impossible to see on particular stop of a down beat. Some cosmologists believe that every instant is within the dimension of time and time is composed of discrete packets of the now.

Thinking about time is much richer when thinking in a dimensional way rather than a straight line fashion. Thinking about a billiards shot is best done in a linear fashion.

The point is that observable phenomenon should get more credence than it does. Yes there are optical illusions that make direct scientific observation suspect but math can also have paradoxes and nonsensical answers. Today we can directly observe a single object being at two places at once, without any smoke and mirror trickery.
Yet people dismiss this phenomenon without full appreciation for what it means - because many observers are (here we go again)
linear thinkers.

A linear thinking observer may not see what I see because I can only process language and spatial thoughts with my right brain hemisphere. I have to force myself into the shortest distance between point A to point B linear concepts, and even when I do, it still seems wrong because in reality the points are moving, entropy is progressing and gravity changes and warps space time etc.

I try from time to time to give a glimpse into what dimensional thinking is all about compared to linear but sometimes it sounds like I am being judgmental of left brain persons. That is not my aim, in fact I am envious of those who have instant access to words spoken or read.


In conclusion, the way in which we think is crucial and comes in more than one valid flavor. Relativity was a big step in the Right direction. Phenomenology and direct observation should be given the same validity as mathematics in science. Also the scientific community can become a bit parochial at times when the goal is to enforce a status quo due to linear thinking patterns.


succinctly,
some self important science ass holes have a stick up their ass regarding new ideas and protect their turf for the money, first and foremost.