Sawzaw, I have not followed all of this thread. It's getting more and more tedious, and my hip-waders are being repaired. But as a historical thing, I've been on Mudcat since late 1999, and Bobert arrived here about two years later. I've read a lot of his posts.

He has a colorful way of expressing himself. But I think I know him well enough to know that he is, in no way, shape, or form, a racist. In fact, he characteristically shows care and concerned for all people regardless of race or circumstances. But he does not suffer fools gladly. Nor, for that matter, do I.

Now, you often do not answer questions he puts to you (you keep accusing him of the same thing, so that's a wash), but you DO have a history of being very insulting to those who have the temerity to disagree with you. AND of trying to divert a discussion that you find a bit uncomfortable by throwing accusations.

So I put your own question back to YOU:"Does A real intellectual person make personal attacks instead of supporting their assertions with any facts.[?]"

I must confess, I have not read all of Bobert's posts. Nor do I generally read yours, because by now, I already know pretty much where you are coming from and what you are going to say—and, for that matter, where you got what you say.

But as one who has been accused often of being things I'm not or believing things I don't by people such as you (those who, when backed into a corner without a good answer, pull out the red herrings and start firing accusations), I am asking you to provide solid evidence for your accusations.

Go back and find the posts where Bobert said these things and link to them, or note the date and time when he is alleged (by you) to have said them, so that we can go to them and read them ourselves—and if he actually DID say what you say he did, we can read the context within which he said them (that can make a huge difference) and determine for ourselves whether YOU are telling the truth or if you are following your frequent practice of dodging an issue by slandering someone else.

In short, Sawzaw, put up or shut up!

Don Firth