"Go back and find the posts where Bobert said these things and link to them, or note the date and time when he is alleged (by you) to have said them, so that we can go to them and read them ourselves."

I already have but here it is again:

Subject: RE: Minority Ignorance
From: Bobert - PM
Date: 17 Feb 03 - 05:40 PM

First of all, I do find the term Negro offensive and patronizing.

With that said, I too am concerned about the continued variance on educational and emplyment between blacks and whites.

I believe a national discussion on "race" is long overdue and America very much needs to not dance around *slavery*. Slavery still haunts our society some 140 years after the Emancipation Procamation. We also need to refocus resources that will provide hope to the inner city population, black and white. We are not doing a very good job on the. I remember when the "summer jobs" program was funded somewhat adaqutely and it had a level of success. We also need to spend oney on a PR program that offers some alternatives to the "cool" to be either *less cool* or *more cool* depending of ones defination.

I think that people who feel disenfranchised are not going to walk the extra mile for acceptance. I'm not say that some won't but the most won't.

Unfortuately, we're not going to move on creating a more hopeful society under the current administration. Not that the last one was all that great, but it was way beyond the current administration.

Bobert

From: Bobert - PM
Date: 20 Feb 05 - 09:12 PM

I don't consider Condi a "token Negro" but very much a "house Negro"

I consider Condi squarely in the "house Negro" category. No racism here [writes himself a pass]... Just fact [another Bobert "fact"]... Condi Rice would be no safer in some of the nieghborhoods I know down in D.C. than Bush, Boss Hog or George Wallace, fir that matter... [does this mean the people in those areas are violent racists?]

Bobert

From: Bobert - PM
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 08:28 AM

In a world dominiated by *white guys* it's highly unlikely that a person of color will ever rise to power. Whitey [a pejorative] jus' has the deck stacked against that ever occuring. Oh sure, he'll promote lots of folks to the position of "House Negro" but you can be sure that these folks won't get any higher than that position, Condi being Exhibit A...

Bobert

From: Bobert - PM
Date: 22 Feb 05 - 06:58 PM

First of all, Dougie, I know my way around a dojo, so neither House Negro Condi of House Negro Colin scare me in the slightest. If either or both of 'um make a move toward me you'll be helping them up off the floor.[physical threat] No brag. Just fact.

Secondly, if they were standing right here, right now in front of me, yeah, I'd confront 'um. They are House Negros. Study a little "History of the South". I took it in college. And that was in Richmond, Va., the capitol of the Confederacy. C & C are very much House Negros in that they do the massa's bidding... They are not folks in power but probably less powerful than the average guy on the street since they have both sold out to whitey [a pejorative]...

That's what House Negros do...

Sell out...

Problem I have with Clarence Thomas isn't that he's trying to get along but with whom...

His decisions are not world view decisions... They are, excuse me, "Uncle Tom" decisons... He is, IMO, what was once know as a "Porch (house) Negro"

Well danged, pdc, shes a lot easier on the eyes than the other porch negro, Colin

Princeton wordnet: whitey, honky, honkey, honkie ((slang) offensive names for a White man)

If you are refering to these:

"Is you their black-haired answer-mammy who be smart? Does they like how you shine their shoes, Condoleezza? Or the way you wash and park the whitey’s cars?"

"Blacks and Hispanics are 'too busy eating watermelons and tacos' to learn how to read and write."

"Kiss A Nigger Good Morning."

I did not attibute them to Bobert. I merely asked him to tell us if they were left or right wing racist statements.

Of course anyone with a modicum of computer savvy can go to Google and put the phrase in quotation marks and usually find out where a quote came from. Not always true with mudcat content but sometimes it works.

And while you are Googling up who said what, find out where I have ever issued a racist remark or called Bobert ignorant. I have always said we should drop all references to race so we can put racism behind us. I have always said we need to find thing we agree on so we can have a return to civility.

I have always treated Bobert with respect for his view points unless he is claiming (projecting) hateful racist viewpoints on others.

Bobert is not an evil person. He thinks he is doing something good and he has a lot of zeal but it is misguided. He promotes the very thing he claims to hate, racism and he cannot detect a fact from propaganda. Nor can he back up anything the asserts. He just makes a wicked assertion. refuses to back it up, attacks anyone that dares to ask him to back up what he says and moves on to the next assertion.

The most amusing thing is he does exactly what he is accusing other people of doing but he grants himself the right to do so.

Note that in Feb 03 Bobert makes a great humanitarian speech about how racism is wrong but by Feb 05 he is rolling in it like a hog in mud.