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Thread #135090   Message #3178890
Posted By: Jim Carroll
30-Jun-11 - 03:02 AM
Thread Name: BS: Muslim prejudice
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
"Jim I will answer any question, and I believe I have already."
No you won't and you haven't - and personally I don't give a toss.
Your efforts to move this thread into your own comfort zone (a debate on a - to date - unsubstantiated over-representation) and away from your claims of an ethnic minority corrupted by its own culture.
Your denials of first having not made such a suggestion, then claiming you took it from somebody else, and now apparently saying it was Don's idea and not yours, underlines what a waste of time it is debating with you (or rather, your absent 'evidence providers', as you refuse to come out from behind them).
Now you want us to debate the merits and de-merits of your 'impeccable sources' - no takers.
I have no idea whether Jasmin Allibhai-Brown intended to express racist views - she claims to have done so - go and argue with her; my sole interest is in your crass suggestion that she couldn't possibly have expressed one - I have shown that she could and has.
My point is that you have proved that you don't have the balls to defend your own arguments and insist on cowering behind 'eminent' others.
Are you really saying that you are so ignorant of this subject that you can't explain why you support the statements you have made and have to rely on the 'eminence' and 'expertise' of others?
It is your own statements you need to debate - have the courage to do so.
Show us your reasons for claiming that the British Pakistani people have a culturally implanted tendency towards paedophelia (yes, you have made such a claim) - show us why, if this is the case, it is not apparent throughought the whole population - not a scholarly analysis; a suggestion will do, show us why such a claim is not a clear incitement to race hatred aimed at an entire ethnic minority - show us your evidence for a "massive, massive over-representation" of paedophiles among the British Pakistani population (I notice that your attempts to back-pedal on this one by removing the "massive" has now been abandoned as a lost cause) - show us why you put up an organisation in your support, then totally ignore their suggestion that making this a race issue is likely to damage already damaged victims, doesn't their knowledge of child protection include such aspects, or do you know better?.
There have been arguments put against your outrageous and dishonest statements - you have ignored them and then claimed they have not been made - trawl through them and answer those points - its never too late.
The only reason I can think of for continuing to debate with you is to allow you to continue to show yourself for what you are - but you can have too much of a good thing; you've already more than satisfied us on that score.
Our week long traditional music school is about to start here - I think I need the fresh air of that joyful event rather than ploutering around this particularly foetid and impenetrable swamp - will look in from time-to-time.
Until you come up with something we can honestly debate - good luck with your quest.
Jim Carroll