""You decide I am racist, so it does not matter that I make only non-racist and anti-racist posts, and never make racist ones.""

No, I don't decide anything of the sort, and in point of fact until that last post, I have argued the issues without directly accusing you of racism as such.

However, if you persist in trying to isolate one particular race, British Pakistanis, and assert that their specific culture renders them liable to be a danger to children and young people, then observers are justified in asking why other racial groups with identical cultural and religious backgrounds do not register on your radar.

This brings up the question of your motives, and leads to the suspicion which has grown around your choice of, and insistence upon, this theory to the point that you ignore and ridicule all suggested alternatives.

You engender further suspicion by denying responsibility for your recorded statements, and hiding behind a bunch of "sources" (chosen by you), who never went to the lengths you did in drawing conclusions, and would probably be horrified at being linked with those conclusions.

In conclusion the duck analogy stands. You will (we all will) be judged by what you say and do, not by what is left after you shift the blame to others who have never agreed to your theory and never heard of you.

It's your own mess Keith, and that's why this thread is as long as it is. You made this about you and your theory, so in future you might like to think a bit more before saying things like ""Don I do now believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency......"", because they are expressions of YOUR point of view and I'm afraid that you own them, like it or not.

Don T.