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Thread #135090   Message #3183573
Posted By: Jim Carroll
08-Jul-11 - 02:38 AM
Thread Name: BS: Muslim prejudice
Subject: RE: BS: Muslim prejudice
For the record, this is part of the discussion on the subject of a "culturally implanted tendency toward paedophile rape" (Don's question) and how you responded to it, along with a question by Lox This is what you accepted as your view and what you put your name to.
You, and not your 'Famous Five' wrote this - your opinion, your responsibility - have the courage to accept it as your view and justify it as such without hiding behind others.
If you wish to point out where I have distorted or invented anything I have selected here, please feel free to do so. Of course, a fuller version of this discussion can be found around the dates provided.

Don's question 12 Feb 11 - 07:52 PM :
"When asked the question ""their culture inspires a slight predisposition to the grooming and abuse of underage girls. Can you confirm that that is your opinion of British Pakistanis?"", you replied ""It is my opinion that it is a reasonable suggestion.
The over representation is a fact that requires an explanation.
Something is predisposing them, and it is more likely to be something sexual in the culture than your alternative list. (wild generalisations?)"".
However small the number of those who succumb to the temptation, and however slight that tendency may be, it does not alter the fact that you believe that all male Pakstani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency toward paedophile rape."

13 Feb 11 - 07:10 AM
Keith
"Don I do now " believe that all male Pakistani Muslims have a culturally implanted tendency" but only because of the testimony of all those knowledgeable people, and always acknowledging that only a tiny minority succumb."

Lox, 13 Feb 11 - 05:11 PM
"A theory that wilfully and exclusively discriminates on Racial/cultural grounds is a racist one."
Keith's reply:
"But, supposing it was true.
It was true about Thugee culture.
I was not comparing Thugee culture to BP culture.
I was only showing you that sometimes culture is to blame.
It is not racist to say that.
But you seem to be saying that it is."

I suggest that if you are now going to disown this, you carefully read through everything you have written before you make yourself look any more dishonest than you already have.
Throughout this thread you have taken examples of the behaviour of a small number of criminals and painted a horrific picture of the British Pakistani community; I brought together 5 "massive" or "massive, massive" examples of how you seem to see the Pakistani people in Britain: (21 Mar 11 - 12:33 - 21 Mar 11 - 12:34 - 21 Mar 11 - 12:36 - 21 Mar 11 - 12:38 - 21 Mar 11 - 12:41.)
You have suggested that the reason they behave the way they do is because "all male Pakistani Muslims" have a "cultural implant" and you compound this by saying "only a tiny minority succumb."
Whatever way you paint this, you have presented us with a culturally degenerate people who are potentially a danger to underage girls outside of their culture. The logic of your argument is that they would all be paedophile rapists if they did not resist their culural urges.
This is how you have depicted a community made up of an the poorest people in Britain who are four times more likely to be racially abused and attacked than any other racial group, and who, by and large, are recognised as being well behaved, somewhat insular, law-abiding, industrious and high achieving when allowed to be.
I really do think I have had enough of your lies, distortions and your cringing behind the words of others, so unless you have anything more to say by way of honest explanation..... music calls
Jim Carroll