Amos, The only problem I've found with the new "Indians" is the belt driven Primary(bad idea)with the dry clutch,(worse idea)The S&S superstock 88 cubic inch is cool enough, and yeah they do look real spiffy,but other than the seat and the frame(and the little lit up indian head on the front fender)everything else is after market stuff that you could put together yourself for 8 to 9,000 dollars less! An' that my friend is alot o' Rasin Pie. Peace-Biskit-