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Thread #52717   Message #3196858
Posted By: Gibb Sahib
27-Jul-11 - 05:57 PM
Thread Name: Origin: Johnny Come Down to Hilo
Subject: RE: Origin: Johnny Come Down to Hilo
The next reference I have, now as a chanty, is not until,

1914        Bullen, Frank. T. and W.F. Arnold. _Songs of Sea Labour_. London: Orpheus Music Publishing.

Bullen, born c.1858, first went to sea in 1869 at age 11. He was a chantyman in the 1870s.

He claimed that he last heard this song off Calcutta, in the 1870s, I believe.

…brings to my mind most vividly a dewy morning in Garden Reach where we lay just off the King of Oudh's palace awaiting our permit to moor. I was before the mast in one of Bates' ships, the "Herat," and when the order came at dawn to man the windlass I raised this Chanty and my shipmates sang the chorus as I never heard it sung before or since…I have never heard that noble Chanty sung since…

Bullen gives the lyrics in a Black eye-dialect, suggesting that the song was associated (by him) with Black Americans or Caribbeans.

10. Johnny Come Down to Hilo.

I nebber seen de like, Since I ben born
When a 'Merican man wid de sea boots on
Says Johnny come down to Hilo.
Poor old man!
Oh! wake her! Oh! Shake her
Oh wake dat gal wid der blue dress on,
When Johnny comes down to Hilo!
Poor old man!


This song, if the same, certainly developed since the plantation song. I would guess that it has touches of minstrel style to it, but it may have been developed among chantymen. I have no info to speculate further, only that "girl with the blue dress" and "poor old man" were minstrel phrases.