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Thread #139327   Message #3197222
Posted By: Teribus
28-Jul-11 - 08:46 AM
Thread Name: BS: security concerns about Norway shooting
Subject: RE: BS: security concerns about Norway shooting
"All of that has zero to do with a nut job killing children in Norway. If you are civilized and sensible you will not conflate the two because if you make the connection between what he has done an what you see as excessive immigration, you excuse and justify what he has done. Civilized people cannot excuse what he has done. Sensible people would not excuse it.

Are you sensible and civilized? If so, please raise your concerns about Norway's immigration in another context."


"if you make the connection between what he has done an what you see as excessive immigration, you excuse and justify what he has done."??

A number of points Jack that I will put as simply as I can.

1: Breivik himself stated that the Norwegian Government's immigration policies were part of the reason he carried his attack AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT - Note against the Government not against any immigrant.

2: I have no view at all that could be considered anti-immigrant with respect to Norway. It would be very hard for me to justify such a view seeing as quite a few years ago now I used to be what you could term as "an immigrant to Norway" (unlike you I have actually spent a great deal of time in the country)

3: At no time at all have I ever attempted to either justify of excuse what this monster did - In fact quite the reverse.

You post - "Get a grip yourself. Take your bigotry elsewhere. It is not appropriate here." - addressed to Akenaton??

Taking the noun bigot to mean - a person who is utterly intolerant of any differing creed, belief, or opinion.

It would appear that you are the only bigot posting to this thread.

"If they have continue to have such politically charged events with such a small amount of security, I would be surprised."

"such politically charged events" - A youth rally?? The Prime Minister of Norway Jens Stoltenberg more or less promised the country that this incident would not rob the country of the slightest vestige of it's democracy or deny any branch of his Party the use of, and freedom to enjoy, the facilities on Utøya. A memorial will be erected there within the next 12 months and in all probability it will be unveiled when the Youth Movement of the AUP reconvene to hold there Rally there next year.

Did the attacks of 7/7 stop people using buses or the Underground? No they bloody well did not. The people of Norway will not be cowed by the actions of a single maniac.