According to the Times reporter....it is now a given that Nato involvement was to impliment regime change.....We are now in a stalemate position, but we are trapped....as we cannot be seen to have failed in another intervention.

It is exactly like Iraq and Afghanistan, now it is about not losing face...what a shower of fucking idiots....or are they?
Perhaps that is the master plan, turn the Middle East and North Africa into a War Zone.

They are leaking stuff about "democracy" being a far off dream, as I said, Muslim Fundamentalism rules!!