I donno, pdq... I think the Constitution trumps lesser laws, the debt ceiling being one... There is no reference to the debt ceiling in the Constitution, BTW... None...

BTW, you are wrong again... We have both a spending and a revenue problem... Taxes have been cut for the wealthy over 20 times since 1955 and there is a point where if you exempt the 80% of wealth that the upper 5% holds then there is no way to do anything but watch a once great nation crumble around *US*...

Yup, 20 pay raises for the rich since 1955 and stagnated wages for the working class going back to 1980...

Do the math...

Now I am fully aware that folks don't think that we need a federal government at all, just a Department of Defense... If that is what you are arguing then count yourself among what even the very Republican and former House member, Joe Scarbrough, on his "Morning Joe" referred to as "very crazy" people this past Thursday morning...

Currently, 50% of all seniors live on less than $22,000 a year... Are you suggesting putting 50% of our retirees out on the street??? I mean, that's exactly what draconian cuts would do if we don't ask the folks who have had 20 pay raises since 1955 to take a pay cut and put a few peas in the pot...

I mean, everywhere you look, this country is falling apart... We have treated like slum loards and it well past time to get it going again...

Giving tax breaks to the rich has *****not***** worked!!! Right now they are sitting on trillions and trillions in cash and aren't producing enough jobs to shake a stick at... Do you deny that???

I mean, it's time to let a little reality into the discsuuion...

Do you want to put seniors on the streets??? Yes or no???

B~