Since I attended Max's "charm school" - and Joe's "arrogant b&st&rd stone-cold brewery rehab" - it is a truly rare (perhaps 2 out of twenty) occasions that "gargoyle" postings disappear.

Look at the "directory" look at the time "signiture" consult the "schedule" - There is no "wizard" in this new land of "Oz" - you can see, feel, experience, and KNOW....the last two seconds ... or the last two months....or decades "American Memory"...is a good thing...in America...perhaps, not "a good thing" at the moment in the UK.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

The "clipping" of one "clone's tail" - seems to have made a serious difference in my case. But going ex-pat did too.