I still say that "make love, not war" sounds better. I have "made love" to people who would melt the paint off your Harley, Spaw. :-)

Fucking, on the other hand, sounds like something you would do with a Harley to me, rather than with another human being...but I guess it's all just a question of taste or past experience with usage of language or something. They don't "fuck" in Elfquest for example...they "join" or "make love"...but this doesn't stop them from being very erotic, in my view. I do agree that calling it "intercourse" is horrifyingly bland, and calling it "sleep with" is ridiculous, so I guess we are in accord on those terms, at least. Mind you, sleeping with someone you love is quite a joy in itself, aside from the sex.

Now, mind you, if the female in question wants to call it "fucking", I don't mind...it's just not the word that first comes to my mind, that's all. Maybe I grew up more sheltered or something. I was, after all, a hopeless romantic in my youth. Now I'm a romantic, period.

LH