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Thread #139685   Message #3206486
Posted By: Gibb Sahib
12-Aug-11 - 03:56 AM
Thread Name: Review: New Shantypage
Subject: RE: Review: New Shantypage
Hey Linda,

Stan Hugill's shanty collection -- the complete one -- has many Swedish and Norsk shanties. Many of them are simply taken from older shanty collections like one called "Opsang fra Seilskibstiden" (by Brochmann, 1916) and another, "Sång under Segel". Hugill gives all the tunes, too. Most likely, you have the "abridged" (shorter) version of Hugill's book -- from which someone removed all of the Scandinavian and German songs!

I can understand the German ones, ~OK~, but the Swedish and Norwegian are really difficult for me because I don't know those languages. However, as I have been learning those, I *think* I am getting a *little* bit better, and I am also learning some Swedish/Norwegian in the process. I welcome your feedback, too! I know that my pronunciation is bad, and I am not trying to be "perfect," but if anything is REALLY bad and incorrect, please feel free to tell me! As I say, at this point I am only trying to *learn*; I don't expect to be taken seriously as a singer of those languages.

AND, you may also feel free to contribute to my series -- but you would need to see the version given by Hugill (or in Sång under Segel).

On your project, one feedback I would give is just encouragement for you to sing your own choice of lyrics. What Hugill has given is only a suggestion of lyrics. They were *not* a firm set of lyrics that he sang nor heard sung. He combined them from various sources, and he is just offering them to give ideas.

Please keep us updated on your blog, and good luck on a fun project!

Gibb

P.S. The song you have quoted is of course the shanty "Santy Ana." However, the solo verses have been borrowed from the ballad of "Svineper" or "Den Gamla Briggen," both of which Hugill gives in independent forms. I think what happened is that the editor Brochmann, and *maybe* sailors, set the Norwegian lyrics to the English shanty.