The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #22672   Message #3212338
Posted By: Max
25-Aug-11 - 12:23 AM
Thread Name: Why did Dylan dis Phil Ochs?
Subject: RE: Why did Dylan dis Phil Ochs?
Yeah, not my usual self tonight. Gotta soft spot for the Jews. Being the chosen people is quite the prize, you know. Kicked out of 84 countries and not giving up on what you believe is a damn sexy quality to me. Gets me a bit cheeky.

I just felt I had to intervene because I was afraid that your anonymous and textbook perfect proof of assertion argument may have been the straw that broke the camels back and finally defeated there 5000 year old charmed and enchanting odyssey.

You may believe anything you like, and if this were a BS thread, a thread about antisemitism in folk songs, a Klezmer thread even, or a thread about that old ballad where the guy publicly obsesses on a popular victim of prejudice in a particular polarizing environment to offset a weakness in an another area of his life... it had a chance.

My opposition is to context. This is a music thread. Talk about music.

And it hurts. It really hurts me to edit a post. A thousand tragedies I have taken an active roll in, and have mourned every one.

My take (admittedly imaginative) was always that Dylan dissed Phil because he was disoriented and intimidated by the fearless, selfless, pure sincerity and freedom of expectations of his songwriting.

The whole thing sensationalized, no doubt, a fun story to be sure. Ochs is deep, man.