Bert ... there's really a LOT of truth in this. I learned a lot from the bug guy I had come look at things. He explained that hornets/yellow jackets, bees, wasps are all just like us ... social creatures and they live a close family life. They all have their respective jobs to do. There are the workers, the defenders, the queens, probably republicans and democrats if you look closely enough. Of course my stepping on their kingdon caused quite a dissruption. bob