The faith-based initiatives by definition are preaching religion as a subtext for what they do.

Joe, one argument that is indisputable is that the Catholic Church owns opulent edifices that are located in squalid and poverty-stricken environments around the world.

The Pope is on conspicuous display reminding everyone of the hierarchical nature of the Church and for him to claim "Christian persecution" is the height of hypocrisy which he surely can't personalize.

Gfs: quoting the bible makes no sense whatsoever as a rational conversation. Cherry picking the scriptures makes about as much sense as taking a rational statement as representative as a quote from Mein Kampf.