"So take YOUR anti Jewish bigotry and got to hell. "
It really is time some people learned to distinguish between "anti-Jewish" and "anti- Zionism"
Israel came into being partly because of a long and indescriminate terrorist campaign - the actions of groups like Haganah and the Stern Gang made the Hamas activities appear rank amaturish in comparison.
The British left Palestine to the sound of the grenades and gunfire of the massacres of several thousand Arab non-combatats being slaughtered to make way for the "Promised Land". The technique was to throw a grenade into an Arab home then rake the survivors with gunfire - taking out men, women, children, old, young - you name it.....
Mike took issue with my comparing the behaviour of the Israelis to that of the Nazis - there were many, many more non-combatants systematically slaughtered immediately following British departure from Palastine than there were at Lidice.
Since then the expansionist policy of driving out Arab families tomake way for Jewish ones has continued; this has included at least two major massacres of men, women and children at Shatila and Sabra refugee camps.
It has been virtually impossible to distinguish between the behaviour of the Nazis and that of successive Israeli governments in the matter of crimes against humanity, other than the scale of same.
This continues to be the case with the Gaza incursions; chemical weapons on built-up areas, heavy artillery on homes schools and hospitals, the razing of whole streets where any resistance is shown They've even se-sited the Berlin wall to the Middle East, this time cutting off Arabs from their work and means of sustenance - not to mention the attempts to starve the Palastinians into submisshion and the killing of aid-bringers.
When I lived in Manchester I counted among my friends a large number of Jews, some of them holocaust survivers and their families; a few of them ex-kibbutz volunteers. Virtually all of them had totally disowned the behaviour of Israel - I think this is the firt time I heard the phrase "Jewish reich". Many of these had taken a sharp left turn in their outlook and joined the Labour and Communist parties - I suppose all of these would fit neatly into Bruce's "anti-Jewish" catergory?
Before Israeli mouthpieces and apologists start listing conditions for Palastine statehood perhaps they might take a quick look at the behaviour of those they are supporting - and their supporters in the UN whose hands are by no means clean as far as human rights abuses are concerned.
Jim Carroll