"that by and large those who would later want to be called Israelis left what would later be called Israel about the year 1300 and had abandoned that land." - Richard Bridge

What about the ones who didn't leave? Who did thery dispossess

What about the ones who from 1847 to 1920 arrived and legally purchased land? Who did they dispossess? The land they were sold was generally considered to be worthless, but the immigrant Jews knew how to alter that and where land could not be turned to cultivation it was developed and turned to industry and commerce.

In May 1948 when the Arabs of Palestine and their allies from Egypt and Jordan attacked the Jews with the intention of annihilating them and drive them into the sea - are you attempting to tell us that there was no intent to disposses?

Are you attempting to tell us that because the Jews left in around 1300 they have no right of return because they were forced to leave and abandoned their land, yet Palestinian Arabs who were ordered to leave their land by their fellow Arabs who were intent in killing all in their path did not abandon their land?

A perfectly workable solution was tabled by the United Nations in 1947 prior to the withdrawal of the British. The Jews accepted it and the Arabs did not, the latter hoping to benefit from the spoils of a war they were about to start. They lost, and they must learn to live with that reality. Having lost, Arab nations almost universally took revenge on Jews living in their midst by killing them, assaulting them, robbing them of the homes, their businesses their property and their savings. No outcry for them Richard I notice, how selective of you.

Did Egypt gain from the war of 1948? Of course it did it annexed Gaza and imprisoned the Arab Jews of Palestine in camps set up on Palestinian soil, the corrupt bastards then ripped the people off by stealing aid genuinely given by others to alleviate the plight od those "refugees" care to explain how you can be a refugee on your own land?? This state of affairs lasted until 1967 when Israel liberated Gaza and evicted the Egyptians from Palestinian soil. The Israelis having formerly been Palestinians themselves had a damn sight more right to hold Gaza than any damn Egyptian

Same thing with Jordan they occupied the West Bank and half of Jerusalem - (Pssst Q - that is how there came to be an EAST JERUSALEM - Jordanian spoils of WAR - I know I'd have to wait until hell froze over before I would get that admission from you)

White Phosphorus - The Richard Bridge terror weapon of choice - because, irrespective of how unlikely, it might kill you. I on the other hand Richard, would prefer to use as a weapon something that was actually designed to kill as it's principal purpose.

Back to Gaza and the West Bank - Billions received in aid over the last 63 years - What have the "Palestinians" done with it all??

I know that Mrs Arafat is a very wealthy widow and that Hamas could give two figs for the people who were foolish enough to elect them to power. Their next election is when Richard? Oh yes that's right, they aren't having any more elections in Gaza are they - I wonder why? The Arab citizens of Israel vote quite regularly though don't they.

The Jews of Palestine took wasteland and made it productive. The Arabs of Palestine made it into a hellhole.