We've had umpteen threads about the ins and outs and the historical events behind this whole conflict.

Right now there's a fresh development that hasn't been there before, and which hasn't been discussed before. Hence Mrrzy's opening post in this thread:

So, my question for the forum is: Given that Israel was carved out of that region, should it or should it not be up to Israel to determine whether Palestine gets to be a nation now? Or, in a more open form, what do you think of the Palestinians going straight to the UN, which seems to some to be an end run around the US and Israel (I'm not sure who else is on that side of the fence)?

I am curious about the tenor of opinion here. Our views often harmonize, and we can keep our tone civil when differences of opinion become discordant. If you can keep to musical metaphor, even better.

That seems a good idea to me. Plenty of threads about the historical background are there waiting to be reopened, or a new one started.