Hard to separate the wheat from the chaff here.

Fox is and always has been a little shit in my honest opinion. How we can trust cabinet votes to a man who is so openly homophobic yet secretly, well let's not join in the tabloid view of his secret life, has always been beyond me. I heard the other day his wit is so wonderful, his attempts at entering he book of quotes includes "The Spice Girls - Three dogs and a blackbird." When he spoke on health, he was the archtypal bad example of how older (than him) GPs have conveyed corporate arrogance over the years and made it more difficult for younger GPs to put that image behind them.

Yeah, I have no time for Fox and although not proud of myself for saying so, I am enjoying his downfall.

But, and I almost repeat from my first post on this thread. Can you extrpolate that into saying ALL Tories are etc etc, any more than the dodgy solicitor from Doncaster who defrauded hundreds of miners out of their compensation claims is a perfect example of solicitors?

If you can't, then it is a bit rich using him as an example of all that is wrong with a general outlook on life that isn't socialist. I am not a Tory, never likely to be one and disagree with many of their ideals and even most of their more pragmatic policies. But to use a flavour of "business as usual" government as a scape goat for all that is wrong with the country and even the world... doesn't say much for having faith in democracy does it?

The big business multinationals aren't aligned to any political view and if you think they are, I suggest having a closer look and seeing if you still think so. Big business deals with all political flavours and all political flavours deal with big business.

If anybody can tell me the difference between Cameron and Milliband, I'm all eyes and ears. "Cos be buggered if I know.