Don and Bluesman, you don't agree with Richard. He shows no sign of being rabid or insane, His words and arguments are lucid enough. Its simply that your viewpoint is different.

Both of you, your manner is abusive and intemperate.

Richard, your posts tell us nothing that was not in both the Telegraph and The Times - hardly left wing scandal sheets. You are only concocting these posts to pull Don's tail feathers, and it is very naughty of you.

With regards to the fall of Fox - it is hardly a matter for rejoicing. As Portillo said on the Politics show, Cameron has now got a very able Thatcherite of impeccable pedigree pissing into the tent.

Thatcherites believe that self enriching little pecadilloes, like the Werrity business is just showing initiative. By the time Thatcher herself left office her son had become the wealthiest arms dealer on the planet. I bet Mark wasn't dumb enough to get Vistaprint cards done, like some fifth rate salesman.