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Thread #140894   Message #3241527
Posted By: Lighter
19-Oct-11 - 04:45 PM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: She Was Poor (Same The Whole World Over)
Subject: RE: Lyr Req: She Was Poor (Same The Whole World Over)
The DT midi of "The Gypsy's Warning," from Harry Peters's "Folksongs out of Wisconsin":

http://mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=2462

I hear a slight resemblance between the tunes, but it may be coincidental. Randolph's tune is less similar.

Looking more closely at Randolph's text, I suppose that stanza three (and maybe four) suggests "Poor but Honest," though very indirectly:

"Lady, once there lived a maiden,
Pure and bright, and like thee fair,
But he wooed, he wooed and won her,
Killed her gentle heart with care.

"Then he heeded not her weeping,
Nor cared he her life to save,
Soon she perished, now she's sleeping
'Neath the cold and silent grave."

(Consider the line, "For he wooed and he seduced her" / "For he wooed her and he screwed her," etc., in the same third-line position in its stanza.)

The words quoted are spoken by the mysteriously protective Gypsy to a maiden about to fall for a wealthy cad.

Whether or not the creator of "Poor but Honest" was consciously parodying "The Gypsy's Warning," the "Warning" is certainly representative of the tradition he (surely not "she") was reacting to.

The British Library lists the composer of "The Gypsy's Warning"
as "Henry A. Goard," not "Coard." Its correct date appears to be "1878." It appears also that Goard's song took its cue from an 1838 opera of that name by Sir Julius Benedict. There are several sheet-music publications of Benedict's opera, or perhaps merely melodies from the opera, including one by A. Devaux in 1864, and apparently one by Goard in 1872, but what connection these might have with "PBH" remains unknown.

It's a long shot, but the possibility remains open that the "PBH" tune originated in Benedict's 1838 opera.