Cross-posted;
I know nothing of Giwer and his holocaust denying, but the view put forward rings true as far as my undarstanding goes - though I am willing to be corrected.
As for my participating in this thread - the other one was polluted by a number of people, myself included - I left it to the flatulents and the incontinents a while ago.
Ban one of us and you must ban us all and not just select those that agree with your viewpoint.
Otherwise - message as in previous post.
Jim Carroll