Hi Les. Well, to start a thread with their name and the word 'fraud' is not likley to win them over to start with, and I think they have been on the recieving end of much more unpleasantness than they have dished out. As I see it they are plugging a hole in the market, does it matter that they want to make money out of it? No, corse it don't, why should it? They are providing a service and expect to be paid for it, as do we all.