Pizel ~ Don't know why you address me specifically on this; or even assume that you know where I stand on the question. All I have contributed to this thread is some distaste at the tone and the terminology in which some of the Lefty-Consensus Boys elect to express their views.
For the rest, I am in one of those can-see-both-sides situations which increasingly bedevil me over so many issues as I age.
But I still don't see why the likes of some can't keep civil tongues in their heads most of the time.