Sorry, Hawk, I was malicioulsy & deliberately appropriating you for for my own purposes. I apologise for not being lissome, lithe, female & 18. ;-)

BTNG - I think you miss the point. JohnM has been deliberately provocative and, quite frankly, out of order. This was never a nice thread, it was never a friendly thread, it was never intended to stimulate convivial discussion of the point at hand.

He wanted either an argument or a knock-out punch. If he doesn't choose to box, that's up to him, but who the hell is he to pontificate about other people's choices?