""No they did not, Don ~~ they put in Ben Gurion, succeeded by Golda Meir. Begin came much later.""

Please accept my apologies Mike. I try hard not to equal Keith in the realm of false claims, but this time I did not research before posting. Begin was the 6th.

My only excuse is that I am getting very fed up of Keith claiming moral superiority, when he is the only poster on this forum who is still refusing to even countenance the possibility that there is fault on both sides.

The fact that Begin came to power at all is a sufficient indicator of the mindset of Israelis at the time and later. I believe that is a fair point, or at least worthy of sensible discussion.

Don T.