Of course it is Bobert. But this is all you can expect and then you need revolution.

"The people will fancy an appearance of freedom; Illusion will be their native land.".............Jacques Ellul

And what did he say were the "illusions?" I found this great synopsis of what Ellul wrote of often:

# That "the people" control the state in a democracy

# Voting controls the course of events [changing those in office means to change nothing, as politicians simply deal with with ephemeral matters or work within constraints (i.e. "iron rails"

# "The people" participate substantially in the doings of the state

# Organizations, such as parties or trade unions, channel popular desires [these organizations require men at the top who are professional politicians concerned with little else than the eternal struggle to attain and retain power against rivals in their own and all other camps. Therefore, these men are interested only in having the support of numbers, and the hopes and aspirations of the rank and file are filtered not up but out.

# Information provided to "the people" is relevant and pertinent [citizens in a state, are dependent upon the information fed them, and the state, party or union hierarchs are expert in managing information and in preventing all nonconforming forces from emerging.

# Politics provides real solutions ["the people" demand political solutions, but no political solutions exist for genuine political problems consists of truly contradictory facts that merely permit equitable settlements. Yet the technicians more and more present all political problems as solvable equations, and "the people" expect solutions for everything


When the methodology of the system changes then perhaps we regain the freedoms we have given up. Now if this reminds you of Ron Paul......Ellul was at the other side of the spectrum. But there are spectrums and spectrums. I don't argue about this philosophy anymore......I just watch it slowly happen as in the Occupy Movement. One day it will ballon up to far greater heights and POOF and WHOOPS!!!----Revolution!!!


Spaw