1) Jack, don't try manipulation with me. You're not very good at it. Don knows where I stand on it, and that's what matters to me in this regard.

2) GfS: don't try teaching your grandmother to suck eggs. I could out-quote you on Dylan even if it was a bad day. BTW,

"Thank you, bluesman...they just don't get what they're sitting in the middle of!"

That is a decidedly poor choice of friends. Read "Bluesman's" posts regarding travelers, people who are poor, etc. Even on a cold night you wouldn't want to share a blanket with him. Don't take my word for it, ask Little Hawk, speaking of whom . . .

3) Saying I read your posts for ideas does not mean I endorse your tantrums and disregard for others. Please don't get that idea. You somehow have it in your head that you introduced/pioneered the idea that the financial markets and political scene are controlled and/or manipulated. Sorry, but I was there three or four years before you on this forum and at least twenty years before you in real life. When I first mentioned two publications, one to do with the historical usage of the term New World Order and the other entitled "Project for the New American Century" which was guided by Paul Wolfowitz, et.al., I was either ridiculed or ignored. I didn't see any support from you at the time. Both are playing out in the present reality.

So let's not pretend you have all that much to teach me. I already know how to make an ass out of myself. When you post your ideas without the vitriol, you may be able to convince a person or two. So far, the only one you seem to have convinced with your tactics is a reprehensible individual who has demonstrated with his posts that he'd be quite happy to implement a pogram that would rid the world of travelers and people who are poor, an individual who has advocated the murders of protestors. As you are so fond of saying, look it up. Sometimes yer enemy's enemy ain't yer friend.