Ya needn't bother talkin at John. I know him. When he says he is gone, he is gone. He won't post and he won't even open the thread to read any of it again.

Me, I might say gnightgnu but I still reserve the right to read and post if I feel my words have been twisted... unless it's a known troll that twisted my words, at which point I know the readers with a brain don't pay attention to their crap.

And there's a lot of crap on this thread.

BTW, no more PMs about this thread please... positive or negative. I said my piece. Got no more to say.