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Thread #97381   Message #3264335
Posted By: Azizi
27-Nov-11 - 02:08 PM
Thread Name: Folklore: Who's this 'Shine' guy?
Subject: RE: Folklore: Who's this 'Shine' guy?
My thanks to whoever posted a comment earlier today to this thread. I happened to be visiting this forum and read that comment which- If recollection is correct- was "That's interesting".

Here's a link to a YouTube video of Rudy Ray Moore's version of the African American toast "Shine" which was included in the 1975 American movie Dolemite

Toast "Shine and the Titanic", from Dolemite (USA 1975)

This rendition of "Shine and the Titanic" includes a considerable amount of profanity, but (or therefore) it's much more true to the street roots of that toast than the other versions of "Shine" that are found on this page. Furthermore, that film clip shows the storytelling/rap/spoken word way that African American toasts were delivered and how listeners' reacted to those toasts.


Here's some information about that film from

"Dolemite is a 1975 blaxploitation feature film, and is also the name of its principal character, played by Rudy Ray Moore, who co-wrote the film and its soundtrack. Moore, who started his career as a stand-up comedian in the late 1960s, heard around that time a rhymed toast by a local homeless man about an urban hero named Dolemite, and decided to adopt the persona of Dolemite as an alter-ego in his act."