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Thread #66703   Message #3273675
Posted By: ollaimh
14-Dec-11 - 11:32 AM
Thread Name: Gulp! Ewan MacColl - Scottish or Not?
Subject: RE: Gulp! Ewan MacColl - Scottish or Not?
singer club always polite, well the "nice anglos" always say thAt when they are giving you the bums rush.

the insults jim carrol sent my way are the kind of politness i am used to from his sort. thanks. i know where not to go.

ewan was pretending to be a highlander with the name mccoll. well he wasn't . he was a lowlander. the the lowland scots have borrowed almost all their cultural icons from highlanders and then bretayed their highland countrymen to the tender mercies of the imperial ethnic cleansing. and i see notheing short og cultural ethnic cleansing in the ideology of groups like the singers club. they want our culture but we cab take a hike.

it's show biz. nothing wrong with show biz, but that's what it is. you make up a personality and go on stage are get an audience by haveing folk cred. all the while the actual gaels are not welcome.i had the exact same experience at the vancouver folk ss. who were ewan mccoll ideology followers--at least many of tem quoted his ideas. he had good deas but they get applied by bigoted and ignorant anglos and become just another way for the "nice anglos" to posture righteous and superior. it becoms a church.

ewan was a great song writer but he was deluded in his ideological thinking. he came out of the rediscovery of folk music first by nationalists and then by leftists to prove their link to the masses. those ideologs were entirely self serving.

i still occasionally go to anglo folk scenes. i don't expect to be treated well. they don't like any differences. however occasionally it's fun. if its not i just don't go. however the french and celtic folk scene is always fun and full of traditional music. so that's where i usually go.

i few years ago i sang at the cecil sharpe house . they were a very welcoming crowd. and i didn't even have an instrument so i sand acapella.i did meet a few great celtic musicians. they agreed with me thast you just have to agree with the anglos to get along. they won't listen to outsiders and will attack vehemently if you back sass the empire(in their minds). youse guys should ocassionally think about what you've created where no ethnically diverses can go about openly. itws justbthe empire and it;s just show biz.

i used to think carrol was a decent person--oh well. maybe there really aren't any in folk.i don't call myself folf anymore. i'm a celtic nusician with an interest in balkan tunes and a few native amerindian songs and acadien music.