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Thread #142137   Message #3276982
Posted By: GUEST,Teribus
20-Dec-11 - 03:03 AM
Thread Name: BS: Unlawful detention by US
Subject: RE: BS: Unlawful detention by US
Should the US "return" this man to the UK there will be no question of him being granted asylum, if he comes to the UK it will be to face charges, just because the US found him as posing "no threat" that does not necessarily mean that he is completely out of the woods.

Silly title of not:

Wars on Terror; Wars on Poverty; Wars on Drugs

All have to be fought and should be.

Had no "war on terror" been fought the following would be the case:

1: Afghan civilians would have continued to die at an average of 248 per day (The average today is 5 per day - 4 of those dying due to Taliban atrocities). The high death toll in Afghanistan would probably have increased due to malnutrition, disease, starvation.

2: In Iraq Saddam would have continued to "bat" his average of somewhere between 154 and 282 per day, or even more as by now we would be coming into the fifth year of the second Iran/Iraq War. There is no way on earth that Saddam would sit back and allow Iran to acquire nuclear weapons - I am pleased to see that nobody seriously puts forward that idiotic canard that Iran's nuclear ambitions are totally peaceful any more.

3: Iran, Syria and Libya would all still have "secret" nuclear weapons programmes. There is only one reason you develop a secret nuclear weapon - its main implication is that you intend to use it, then deny all knowledge of its existence.

4: The illegal nuclear weapons proliferation network of Dr A.Q.Khan would have remained undiscovered and would have continued to assist Iran, Syria and Libya.

5: The War on Terror brought democracy to Afghanistan and to Iraq, may be far from perfect but in both those countries the people have a voice that those in other Arab and Muslim countries have not. No "Arab" Spring necessary in Iraq, but look at what has unfolded in neighbouring Ba'athist Syria. In Iraq with Saddam in power any "popular uprising" would have been crushed as he attacked the Shia in the South and the Kurds in the North in 1991, the death toll numbering in the hundreds of thousand.

6: Since a young Tunisian poured fuel over himself and set himself alight about a year ago Al-Qaeda has become a total irrelevance. Al-Qaeda has shown that it incapable of delivering on any of its boasts or promises. All they were ever really good at was killing unarmed fellow Muslims.

Had the attacks of 9/11 been treated as a "criminal" act and pursued by the police forces of the world, the "investigations would have got nowhere.